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Hyperadrenergic POTS (hyperPOTS) An overview of a POTS subtype


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Description, Physiology & Onset
Hyperadrenergic POTS is a subtype of POTS that affects about 10% of patients with dysautonomia symptoms due to orthostatic intolerance. (Grubb et al, 2011) The mechanism differs from other types in so far as it is caused by centrally driven sympathetic activation.  In other words, symptoms are caused directly from an ANS malfunction, rather than the ANS malfunction being a response to another cause. This results in patients having increased norepinephrine (adrenaline) in circulation and a rise in systolic blood pressure upon standing.  

Two additional characterizations of hyperPOTS go hand-in-hand - hypovolemia and the reduction in the activity of the enzyme renin and aldosterone. When a person with hyperPOTS is upright, there is a loss of plasma blood volume into the surrounding tissue (hypovolemia). In people without hyperPOTS, there is a normal reduction in urinary sodium levels when upright. This mechanism doesn't happen effectively in a person with hyperPOTS and this contributes to the severity of the reduced blood volume upon standing.  In addition, the plasma enzyme renin plays a major role in the regulation of blood pressure, thirst, and production of urine. When standing, the activity of renin and aldosterone is greatly reduced in a person with hyperPOTS.

The third major characteristic is the elevated norepinephrine and epinephrine levels in a person with hyperPOTS. Adrenaline is a neurotransmitter, a substance communicating within the nervous system and it is active in the synapse, the junction between nerves. When present, it causes activation of the sympathetic nervous system, causing an increase in HR and/or BP, commonly known as the “fight-or-flight response” which causes excitement, tremors, etc.  The increase of norepinephrine can be activated by different mechanisms, the ANS produces too much adrenaline ( centrally mediated hyperadrenergic activation ), the excess adrenaline does not get cleaned out of the synapse once no longer needed ( Norepinephrine Transporter Deficiency ) or autoimmune antibodies against cholinesterase receptors.  (Vanderbilt)

The onset of hyperadrenergic POTS is largely the same as other forms of POTS, with the onset of symptoms following precipitating events such as viral infection, pregnancy or trauma, including surgery. Another cause found in hyperadrenergic POTS is MCAS ( mast cell activation syndrome ).  In this case, the circulating vasodilator produces reflex sympathetic activation which causes symptoms like flushing and orthostatic intolerance ( the inability to compensate for the upright posture ). (Vanderbilt)

Diagnosis
The criteria for diagnosis shares many factors with POTS; including the presence of symptoms for 6 months or longer, a Head-Up Tilt Table Test (HUTT) shows tachycardia of 30 BPM or above 120 BPM in the presence of orthostatic intolerance within the first 10 minutes of upright posture. Patients are diagnosed with the hyperadrenergic form of POTS based on an increase in their SBP ( the higher number ) of at least 10 mmHg upon standing or during the HUTT with concomitant tachycardia or serum norepinephrine levels of above 600 pg/ml when upright. (Grubb, et al, 2011)

Symptoms
The symptoms of hyperadrenergic POTS are often shared with other types of POTS but also can be specific to this type of POTS: anxiety, tremors, orthostatic hypertension, and cold hands and feet being specific to this type. Other symptoms include fatigue, palpitations, dizziness and presyncope, syncope, excessive sweating, nausea/ diarrhea/ bloating, excessive stomach acid, increased urine output upon standing. Similar symptoms can be caused by pheochromocytoma ( a benign tumor on the adrenal gland ), so the presence of this must be ruled out before the diagnosis can be made. (Grubb et al, 2011)

Treatment
In addition to increased fluid intake and compression garments, it can be helpful to increase salt intake, but caution is needed when hypertension is present.  Twenty (20) minutes of mild aerobic exercise ( in fresh air when possible ) 3 times a week has been proven effective. A fine balance of activity and rest periods can prevent hyperadrenergic symptoms and can promote healthy sleep patterns.(Grubb et al, 2011)

There are many medications that have been effective in symptom improvement, however, there are no FDA approved drugs for the treatment of this type of POTS. The treatment is highly individual, which means some meds will help one patient but not the other. This can create a frustrating process of trial-and-error but often will lead to the discovery of the right combination.

Some of the medications that have been found helpful are:

  • Adderall, Ritalin
  • Florinef
  • Clonidine
  • Beta-blockers (especially the combination of Carvelidol and Labetaiol)
  • Midodrine
  • SSRI/SNRI
  • Modafinil
  • Methyldopa

One of the more significant findings in the treatment of hyperPOTS is the general observation that centrally acting sympatholytics (Clonidine, Methyldopa & others) and beta-blockers seem to work better to manage symptoms in people with hyperPOTS than patients with neuropathic POTS. (Grubb, et.al)

Prognosis
Hyperadrenergic POTS is often chronic and can be progressive. Some patients are disabled and unable to work while others are able to function with limitations. It has been shown that treatment is challenging since often the symptoms change or increase over time and medications may need to be adjusted or changed.

It is important to note that most research into POTS and subgroups of POTS recognize the inherent problems associated with trying to narrow down the specific subtype.  One of the most difficult problems is that the abnormalities seen in different subtypes are not mutually exclusive from other abnormalities. For example, a person with the norepinephrine levels indicative of hyperPOTS may also have QSART levels pointing to neuropathic POTS.  Therefore, most physicians specializing in the treatment of POTS disorders focus on the specific abnormal findings instead of focusing on categorizing the subtype. (Vanderbilt) (Grubb)

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Resources:

Blair P. Grubb, Khalil Kanjwal, Bilal Saeed, Beverly Karabin, Yousuf Kanjwal
Clinical presentation and management of patients with hyperadrenergic postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. A single center experience, Cardiology Journal, 2011, Vol 18 No. 5
https://journals.viamedica.pl/cardiology_journal/article/view/21202/16806

Vanderbilt University
Autonomic Dysfunction Center
Italo Biaggioni, David Robertson, Cyndya Shibao, Amanda Peltier, and additional faculty members, et al.
Hyperadrenergic Subgroup and POTS subtype: Does it really matter?https://ww2.mc.vanderbilt.edu/adc/38938




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As a HyperPOTS subtype, I have higher blood pressure too.  Absolutely none of the mentioned meds here worked for me.  As we further define the subsets, its Interesting that they would still be RXing the same meds tried for other subset types with lower blood pressures.  If we aren't deficient in Salt and we aren't losing it.....why add more.  I had a nephrologist tell me the normal treatment for low renin and Aldosterone is a diuretic.   We dont need to lower either of those (renin or aldosterone) more with ACE or ARB as that part of the system is already broken and too low already.  

For me, I've found other issues like Collagen Binding Factor and Factor VIII blood thickness issues.  Instead of vasoconstricting blood vessels I need to dilate and thin blood.  There can be so many reasons for us having HyperPOTS.  Also the triad with MCAS and EDS.  There is alot of genetics at play here.  I've basically had all these things most of my life.  Just age has intensified some things.  It is generations in my family.  I just got results from a study done with my sis at University of Utah and genetics.....lots of genetic mitrochondrial issues.  

I know we would all like a list and an order to go in.  But this is just not possible with the complexity we all seem to have in our own individual puzzles.  

As for medicine, for me.....still my best thing is 1/2 to 1 50mg. Tramadol and a 10mg Bentyl.  I use enzymes for blood thinners and some herbs to help slightly vasodilate my veins.  Light Compression to knee when traveling and abdominal binders, still a help.  

Also have been in treatment for Lyme and CIRS and fungus found in organ biopsy and blood.  This has been a huge help.  Still treating mostly with enzymes and herbs.

Movement is essential with this subset type.  We have to assist our heart with pumping for blood flow.  Fidget as much as possible and walk, if you can.  At least move your legs somehow.  

Issie

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11 hours ago, Heartbroken said:

Issie, My condition is very similar to you. Do you get migraines?

Yes, occasionally I do.  Started with silent ones and they progressed to the pain ones.  Not often, thankfully, but do get them.  

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Hi Issie,

  I have this subtype.  If my blood pools then wouldn’t tramadol ‘hurt’ because it doesn’t constrict the vessels?  What’s very odd is that before I was diagnosed I felt Tramadol worked for me but my primary doctor wanted me off the ‘opioid’.  Now I take Midodrine and Mestonin and Clonidine (at night).  I feel I need a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor though.  

I have chest pain and headaches.   I feel like the Midodrine and mestonin got me off the couch but barely and I’m suffering.

 

Thoughts?

 

Jules

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Depends on if you need the blood vessels to constrict or not.  For me, too much constriction makes me worse.  I have thicker blood and issues with coagulation so I need to thin my blood and dilate some to help my blood flow.  We are all different and have to figure out what our body is doing and why.  When I tried the constricting meds, it made me much worse.  

Issie

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I've been diagnosed with POTS syndrome, I feel terrible all the time dizzy, light headiness, shaky, no energy ,headaches, ect. The main problem in having is any time I'm not lying down my diastolic blood pressure goes up buy 25 to 30 points. I was diagnosed by John Hopkins. 

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All etiologies of POTS can display 'hyperadrenergic' features. Neuropathic POTS patients can display these features. POTS patients with low-flow POTS and elevated Angiotensin II would meet the definition of Hyperadrenergic POTS. The patients in the adrenergic autoantibody studies with the highest titers for alpha receptor antibodies had hyperadrenergic features.

The same amount of 'Hyperadrenergic' as 'neuropathic' POTS patients had small fiber neuropathy suggesting the possibility of a common primary etiology. This is why several docs including Dr Raj arent super keen on people 'subtyping' a group of disorders with unclear etiologies.

All of this suggests that there is no fixed medical consensus on the etiology of 'Hyperadrenergic POTS' as a distinct diagnosis or pathology and that it is a presentation. 

Lastly - as an aside, Norepinephrine and adrenalin are different. This is important because hyperadrenergic POTS patients generally have elevated norepinephrine (which is preferential for alpha 1 and alpha 2 adrenergic receptors) rather than epinephrine (which is preferential for beta 1 and beta 2 adrenergic receptors).

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Very interesting and quite possibly very helpful. There are so few people, including my current doctor, that can talk to me about all these possibilities. 
Who is your doctor, are you satisfied, and where do you live? I’m in Birmingham, AL. 

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On 4/12/2022 at 7:58 AM, ramakentesh said:

All etiologies of POTS can display 'hyperadrenergic' features. Neuropathic POTS patients can display these features. POTS patients with low-flow POTS and elevated Angiotensin II would meet the definition of Hyperadrenergic POTS. The patients in the adrenergic autoantibody studies with the highest titers for alpha receptor antibodies had hyperadrenergic features.

The same amount of 'Hyperadrenergic' as 'neuropathic' POTS patients had small fiber neuropathy suggesting the possibility of a common primary etiology. This is why several docs including Dr Raj arent super keen on people 'subtyping' a group of disorders with unclear etiologies.

All of this suggests that there is no fixed medical consensus on the etiology of 'Hyperadrenergic POTS' as a distinct diagnosis or pathology and that it is a presentation. 

Lastly - as an aside, Norepinephrine and adrenalin are different. This is important because hyperadrenergic POTS patients generally have elevated norepinephrine (which is preferential for alpha 1 and alpha 2 adrenergic receptors) rather than epinephrine (which is preferential for beta 1 and beta 2 adrenergic receptors).

Ramakentesh or anyone else, do you mind sharing the journal article that goes over what type of drug is good for what kind of adrenal hormone response? I have high neuroepinephrine and my doctors put me on a beta blocker and I’m thinking it’s the wrong drug. Could you send me a PM or reply here?

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A family member has had progressively worsening symptoms involving tremors, difficulty walking, difficulty speaking, and most recently, dementia-like cognitive issues on top of typical cardiac symptoms. Mestinon is the only thing that helps, and there is some symptom overlap with myasthenia gravis (tested negative for antibodies). I wonder how acetylcholine might be involved given the symptoms and response to mestinon? The cognitive issues are very troubling and seem way beyond "brain fog".  Our medical team is not getting too far with this. Any similar experiences or insights? 

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I'm at a complete loss and not quite sure which way to turn. I appreciate if anyone has any thoughts/opinions....

My daughter was diagnosed with ASD (atrial septal defect .... heart murmur) at 6 months of age. She ended up having to have that repaired right after she turned 4. She just turned 13 this summer. Her last cardiologist appointment had been approximately 4 years ago and she wasn't due to go back in until next December. However, about a year and a half ago she started saying she was getting dizzy and lightheaded. I have diabetes that runs on my side of the family, so I had attributed it to that. Especially after when giving her something with sugar in it (thinking her blood sugar level had just dropped) her symptoms seemed to go away. Well as of recently, she started showing more and worsening symptoms. And they have all been coming on quickly. She has headaches most days, when she gets up in the morning, she is extremely dizzy and lightheaded. To the point that it makes her nauseous and at times she will turn white as a ghost. This happens every morning now. There have been days that I don't even send her to school because of it. The dizziness is any time she is standing. She has been complaining of her knee hurting all the time. That it aches and has a sharp pain every now and again. It does not look bruised. She loses her balance from the dizziness and feels like she is about to pass out, but as far as we know she hasn't fallen on her knee. One day she became so lightheaded and dizzy that I went and bought a blood pressure machine to test her and it was through the roof. Her highest reading so far has been 193/168/132. It is difficult getting her to drink as she says she never really feels thirsty. She has gotten a lot better about drinking fluids. We took her to her cardiologist where they did a heart echo, ekg and a vitals test. They did not do the 10 minute standing test, just had her lay down for 5 minutes, took her bp, stood and took another bp then waited another 30 seconds and took another blood pressure. Her readings at that time were high enough that they automatically diagnosed her with POTS. This was a new doctor that she had never seen before because her doctor had ended up moving out of state. I was not satisfied with this doctor at all. She did no blood work, no physical exam. Nothing other than reading the ekg and echo and said it sounds like POTS. Told us to increase her sodium to 3000 mg a day, drink lots of water and come back in a year. I ended up making an appointment with per primary care provider and had nearly/ the same results. When she got up this morning to get ready to go to her appointment her first reading was 106/74/76. She went and took a luke warm shower and her reading was 125/76/105. Then right before we left for her appointment we did our own 10 minute stand test with the following results:

102/56/72
114/70/103
121/76/101
120/70/108
12/76/109

I told the doctor this and they still think it's POTS. I don't understand how. Everything I have read, her levels aren't high enough at this time for it to be. She has most definitely been at those levels, but not consistently. I ended up getting extremely irritated and she finally relented and has ordered bloodwork so hopefully that will show something. She wouldn't give in to testing for B vitamins, but is checking Iron, D, thyroid and something else. I know something is wrong with her. She's miserable and we don't know what to do. I'm just afraid of treating her for something she many not have. 

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

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Hello, I am Susanne, who wrote the article you responded to. I would demand a Tilt Table Test from her cardiologist. Labs work unfortunately does not usually show anything in POTS, but I am glad you are getting her Vitamins checked. My daughter also has POTS and was symptomatic at the same age as your daughter. She even passed out a few times from it, and her HR's were soaring upon standing. The teenage years unfortunately often cause symptoms because they are growing and often this puts a strain on the ANS because with every growth spurt the body needs to get adapted  to pump more blood.

I want to encourage you to place your post also on our Dysautonomia Forum. There are many informed and experienced POTS patients on there, and their experiences can be very helpful to finding out what is going on with your daughter. 

Sincerely - Susanne, Forum Moderator

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Thank you for your response, Susanne. Is the tilt table test more accurate in diagnosis of POTS than the stand test? I did read that the blood work can't diagnose POTS, that it's to rule out other issues that can cause similar symptoms.  And she started her cycle about a year ago and is pretty regular (a lot more than I was at her age). How did you handle schooling with your daughter? Did you have them make any kind of accommodations for her? I talked to my daughters school nurse and secretary. They didn't even bother telling her teachers. Luckily I have regular contact with one of her teachers that have been with her for the last couple of years and she is a great advocate for the kids so she is spreading the word to her other teachers for me. I am just so frustrated with .... EVERYTHING right now. :(

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